My apology to the forum.

[Code One]

I am sorry for sturring up dust, I should have never provoked anyone to become offensive, and I should have not started crap with anyone. I don't even remember why I did anyway, so that tells me Im the lame one, like many of you have already said. I commend those who read my post and kept a cool head, you were professional and I commend that. I am sorry if I ruined anyones day yesterday. Plus I am becoming a nuisance to this forum, to you, and to it's moderators. Why should I make things harder for them, considering they volunteer to help us when we need it, and are as helpful to us as possible. I have no right to bother the moderators, and Im sorry to all of you. Also the members of this forum, I am sorry for bothering you as well, you come here to interact with each other and to trade and share developing advice and tricks and the last thing you need is me making you angry. I have no right to do so. I am sorry. I have no valid exscuse for picking at people and I promise to stop at all costs. There is no need to be enemys here we should spread love because right now this world needs as much as it can get.

Peace,

Code One

[Jona]

That's cool. I'm not against you, even though you did frustrate me a tad-bit... I'm cool. ;)

[web-eagle]

I think “frustrate” is a good word, Jona. Not hatred or even anger. Maybe too much testosterone (some of us).:)
Not even sure that I should reply at all, since the sooner this just fades away the better.
Code One, we’ve corresponded before. I like knowing about ideas that are different than mine, even if I can’t embrace them. At the very least, it forces me to re-evaluate and re-affirm. That can’t be a bad thing. Welcome back.

[Jona]

Um... Pardon my not-so-good vocabulary--what's testosterone?

[Dark Dragon]

Hey Jona...

Testosterone is a male hormone...it is what makes men act and look like..umm...men.

[Jona]

Oh.... :o

[Dark Dragon]

Well..you DID ask :rolleyes:

[Jona]

My bad... I hate it when I'm ignorant.. Sheesh.... Oh well, now that I know... I won't make the same mistake again. lol

[Dark Dragon]

Nah..I wouldn't say ignorance just because you don't know.

But hasn't your Intelligence Meter risen substantially after learning that?

[Jona]

After all of these SAT tests lately, I'm going brain dead... lol

[Dark Dragon]

Hey! Sounds like more fun than Final Fantasy!!!! (NOT!) :D

Y'know..about what you said about Luna...I don't really like it either but occasionally I talk to a couple of people there.

But it gets hard because of the spammers.

[Jona]

Well, I know whatcha mean. I go there sometimes, but I never post or anything.. I just look at people's opinions and get back to GameTalk to see if anyone is on... lol

[Dark Dragon]

Well, I hope Mike gets his tush in gear and fixes GT.....it seems that GT is having more and more problems functioning.

Maybe it is too big?

[Jona]

It wouldn't be because it's too big, because the problem is server-side and it's all dynamic. That's why there's no, "error 404" on their site.. Unless the URL is WAAAAAAAAAYYY off of the wall. Anyhow, Mike is online right now, so I told excellfire to bug the life out of him.... She said she would... I think. ;)

[Dark Dragon]

Heh..he will just "love" that now, won't he?

Well he deserves it after all...letting GT be down for so long.

Yes, there is no "404 Error" alright...you simply cannot access it at all. I hope Excellfire is successful in her "quest to bug".

[Jona]

Mike just said, "it will be fixed in a sec." So I'm guessing it's not a big problem... He said something was wrong with the Forum Creation tools. So after he fixes that we shouldn't have a problem.

He also said that he wasn't online two days ago and wasn't able to get on yesterday... "until today."

Update: He said it would be up within a few hours.

[Dark Dragon]

"In a sec" means two days huh?

Boy, I wonder how long a big problem would last considering GT was down yesterday too....oh well, we shall see then.

Update: Heh...just as I uploaded my response you made a update...

[Jona]

I edited my post..

[khaki]

hey Jona sweetie...

you better hope that jdavia doesn't see that you didn't know what "testosterone" was...

or he'll once again be saying that "all you daughters are the same". LOL!!! :)

(don't worry, I'll never tell ;) )

;) k

[nkaisare]

Originally posted by khaki
hey Jona sweetie...
OK this is a purrfect FOB question - somethin that I failed to understand. Most of the ladies (secretaries, admin etc) in the school call us students "sweetie", "honey", "doll" etc. But last time when I called an elderly lady "sweetie", I was told later by my friends not to do so.

Just wanted to know - do only ladies call some acquaintance "sweetie"? Or is it that you can only call people half your age that? Or is it that only ladies can call people half their age that? Just curious...

[Jona]

khaki, I'm not sure if I'm glad you mentioned that or not... I could edit my posts and act like Dark Dragon doesn't know what she's talking about... lol, but now I think nksaisaire thinks I'm a girl! :eek: No!! lol, OK just FYI, I am a guy!!

[nkaisare]

Jona, I know you are a guy. I read that somewhere (I think in the "ponderous" thread). :D

[khaki]

huh?!

ummm....
i don't know.

i'm not quite twice Jona's age (but almost :eek: )... but i call Jana sweetie because....
well....
do you know Jona?!

he is a sweetie...
and that is my nickname for him (all the time).

but when it comes to things like "sweetie", "honey", "doll", etc...
it's not just a female thing.

i get called those same names by guys...
plus "baby", "sugar", "sweetheart", and uh... (well.... you get the idea).

it's not just a female thing.

oh... and Niket....
just so ya know...
Jona is a guy (100%)!!!

;) k

[nkaisare]

Thanx for clarification. I got an impression that if you r a guy, you call "sweetie" or "honey" only to the special someone or a good friend.
Not that I'll go around calling people that (in fact, I wont... i find it too sweet for my taste).

Jona is a guy (100%)!!!
Yes, I know. As I said, I read it in the "ponderous" thread, I think.

[khaki]

I read it in the "ponderous" thread it was a good thread and a great friend to many of us.
i miss it :(

[Jona]

I see, nksasaire. Well, glad you knew I was a guy. ;)

khaki, You're.... 28, right? I thought you were... Or was that 26? Well, if you're 28 I'm half your age.. (Darn! lol it's too bad for me... oh well, I'm too young to worry about that sort of thing anyways lol!)

P.S. The "dot dot dot" is yours. ;)

[nkaisare]

Yeah, I was a silent spectator. I didnt take notice of it until it reached 300 posts... then it became too much material to read and start commenting on :rolleyes:

[nkaisare]

Originally posted by Jona
I see, nksasaire.
The name is "Niket" :)

[Jona]

Cool. Gotcha, Niket. ;)

[web-eagle]

I’m twice khaki’s age and I can call her “khaki”, or “khaki”, or even “khaki”.

Always remember: two sets of rules
We (men) are supposed to act like we never noticed that, but there are two sets of rules.
They can call us whatever they want. We can call them “yes, ma’am” or proper name only. “Yes, your majesty” will also work, but you better say it with a straight face! Try even one little “honey” and you’re in SO much trouble, unless of course she wants you to, then there’s a third set of rules. (Whew!) And be careful about the “miss”, “missus”, or “mizz” part. It’s so complicated, well, h*ck, just don’t even talk to ‘em!

”Politically Correct means not saying what you really think.” – Web-Eagle

---
My daughter (recently married) sent me this e-mail. Should I fear for her husband???

The Truth About Men!

1. The nice men are ugly.
2. The handsome men are not so nice.
3. The handsome and nice men are gay.
4. The handsome, nice, heterosexual men are married.
5. The men who are not so handsome but are nice men, have no money.
6. The men who are not so handsome but are nice men with money think we are only after their money.
7. The handsome men without money are after our money.
8. The handsome men who are not so nice and somewhat heterosexual, don’t think we are beautiful enough.
9. The men who think we’re beautiful who are heterosexual, somewhat nice, and have money are cowards.
10. The men who are somewhat handsome, somewhat nice, have some money and thank God are heterosexual, are shy and never make the first move!
11. The men who never make the first move automatically lose interest in us when we take the initiative.

NOW WHO IN THE H*** UNDERSTANDS MEN?!?

Men are like a fine wine. They all start out like grapes and it’s our job to stomp on them and keep them in the dark until they mature into something you’d like to have dinner with.
---

And Jona probably IS a sweetie, but he'd never forgive me if I said it in a public forum! :D


“We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.”

[Jona]

lol, Web-eagle. That's funny. I personally don't care what girls call me... Unless they're ugly or something... No, I'm just kidding. lol I don't care what girls call me, because it doesn't matter to me. Thing is, it doesn't work the other way around (although I would like that :rolleyes: ). If I a girl calls me stupid, and I call her stupid back... Yup, my parents come out with a broom.. OK, I'm exaggerating, but you get the point.. Girl goes off crying because I called stupid, I end up in trouble, etc., etc... No offense to girls, if I didn't like them, I wouldn't let them call me names. Anyhow, I've just learned to take stuff and keep my mouth shut. Believe it or not, I talk a lot here, but everyone in my family says I have an extremely low voice for my age--which is rarely used. And they're right... I only open my mouth to eat. When my mouth is used to talk, it's only when I have a matter of importance on which to discuss, or I am inquired upon any certain subject. This comes natural to me... I suppose good looks is another reason why girls stare at me all the time. lol, but I'm serious. I like sit there and I notice there's some girl sitting there across the room just staring at me and smiling. And I'm like, "Whoa..." and I kinda act like I don't know... Sheesh, I think I typed a lot. Whew! OK, but anyways, I think y'all get the picture, right?

[havik]

As much as I enjoy reading your posts (very very interesting to read :D) I think we need to get back to the thread subject at hand. :p

Code One, its very juvenille how you provoked (or attempted to provoke) others into frustration and anger. But it also takes some guts and a mature self-reflection to admit your faults and apologize. I commend you on that. :)

Havik

[Kaisa]

I don't mean to be rude but all that talking between jona and dark dragon made me fall asleep :O O_O :O

[IxxI]

You mean the exploits of Mike and excellfire didn't excite you?? Where DO you come from... :D

IxxI

[Jona]

IxxI, do you go to Gametalk? If so, what's your username there? Mine is, obviously, Jona.

Kaisa, that's not rude, I would've fallen asleep, too, if I didn't know what we were talking about. lol

[Code One]

I just downloaded the full album of White Pony (DefTones) and it rocks!!!!! I know it's old but hey bands stopped being good past 96'. When Tupac and Nirvana, and biggie passed on. Ok you got coal chamber, but they broke up, ok so you got System of a down, but they sold out, and now they rap, nuff said, not that rap is bad, notice I mentioned my love for tupac and biggie, but when you come out with toxicity you dont follow up with steal this album, because I wouldnt steal it to save my life. It's crap!!!!! Also notice I am ignoring the fact that we were forced to listen to the backstreet boys and britney spears, I am still trying to forget. Therfor, I am left as many of you are to search back for old bands, like greatful dead, and sound garden, etc. Bands that played for the art and not for the money. Though sadly just like Korn, many of them sell out as well, and then you are left sifting threw the ones that never fail, like nirvana, and Alice in chains. Anyway . . .
My point is I love DefTones and the above is why. I just hope they dont sell out or break up like all my favorite bands from before have all done.

Thanks

Code One

P.s. what bands do you like?
Also Kurt Cobain, was he murdered or did he commit suicide? I think that tramp courtney love killed my boy because he was about to leave her trashy ace. But thats my opinion, whats yours?

[Jona]

Off-topic, eh? I don't listen to music.

[khaki]

you already listed my fave (Nirvana)

a few others:

Sonic Youth

Jane's Addiction

RHCP (but nothing after BSSM)

older:

War

KRS

Jimi

(but i could go on, and on, and on, etc)

;) k

EDIT:
she killed him after he wrote her album for her.
my opinion :rolleyes:

[AdamGundry]

Electric Light Orchestra, Nirvana, RHCP (in that order). Everything else depends on how I'm feeling.

Adam

[Code One]

Janes addiciton reminds me of first serious gurl friend, our song was Jane says, awww right. Shut it!!!! j/k.

KRS 1 is a poet.

hendrix was a genius

My favorite band is Nirvana, I totally love Kurt Cobain, but like a brother, or something . . . dont get your minds in the gutter. My favorite band right now meaning most current to the industry is Coal Chamber, I just like dark gloomy music, but I promise Its not a reflection of myself, my friends say I am just angry but I am as happy as can be, it's just that sometimes I need a break from all the sunny happy people, hahaha j/k. ;)

Code One

EDIT:
Geez you guys are quick, adam, it's always a pleasure to hear that Nirvana is someones fav. never heard light electric orchestra, is that kinda like Type-O? I like orchestral music as well, my fav. piece is that one from shawshanks redemtion, the one he plays in the office, and gets thrown in the hole for, I got the cut on disk, its beatiful, I code to it tons. Nice picks!!

CO

[web-eagle]

Ok, it’s fairly obvious now that this thread HAS no topic. So let’s see…
I’m a guy. I promise.
I have enough testosterone that it’s starting to make my hair thin out in a little bitty circle on top my head (IOW, khaki would never in a bazillion years ever call me “sweety”!)
I’ve never called any woman “honey”, not ever. (Although I did marry a real “babe”!)
My age in four years will be twice as much as khaki’s will be when she is three times as old as Jona will be when he posts his 5000th message.
My favorite game is still Tetris, although Master of Orion 2 is also very good.
My favorite music comes from a guy named Manilow. And Chicago is a close second.
I’m not frustrated any more, although I am very sorry Code One started anything.:D
And now I’m going to go ponder my future, which probably includes eating ice cream while listening to Barry crooning…

…..Got dust on my piano…..

…..dishes in the sink…..

…..your side of the bed is cold…..

…..I haven’t slept a wink…..

…..so I read your goodbye letter…..

…..to the face inside my drink…..

…..lay me down and roll me out to sea…..

(What the H*** does that mean?)

[Jona]

Well, web-eagle, I don't know about that. I've been answering lots of questions, and I might have 5,000 posts by May... We'll see. :rolleyes:

[Code One]

Chicago, is one of the best instrumental bands of all time, possibly. Along with Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Dave Matthews, just to name a few. Can't say I like Manilow, not really a jazz person, though I do like this really rad chic named Rickie Lee Jones. As far as games checkers is my favorite. Electronically though I gotta say Mafia is my favorite comp. game, and Street Fighter II is my favorite console game. Favorite poet is Dante. Favorite philosopher is Einstein in all his perfection, by the way he was a philospher as well. Favorite animal is a cat named Lion for all his strength, courage, and pride. Favorite instrument is the piano, cuz it's the only one I can play besides the harmonica, and that dont really count. Favorite type of music is classical, sorry Kurt. Favorite composer is Beethoven for the Nocturne, it just seems like the bass and treble are crying. Anyway . . . thats just some things I like.

See ya

Code One

[khaki]

my brother (oldest) listens/listened to Chicago (24 or 6 to 4 and Saturday in the Park... right :rolleyes: ?).
Kinda "dated" now, but still good (and it reminds me of being a little kid :) )

Barry is so uncool that he is now ultra-cool (my sister-in-law loves him, and just saw him on Broadway or something. Or maybe he was just playing in one of the caberet clubs. I don't remember now).
Anyway... he seems to be riding the same wave that Tony Bennett rode a few years ago (well... at least here in New York, anyway).
He's okay (but kinda goofy :eek: )

I've decided that i will not call web-eagle "sweety" (or "sweetie").
I've chosen to call him "we beagle" (or probably just "beagle").
but i'm a total whack... so whatever.

don't sweat the "little bitty circle" thing beag.
my boss has one of those... and I call him "romeo" (well.... his last name is actually "Romeo"... but still).
and seriously... it's not so bad...
a girl can use it as a mirror (if you're where we like you to hold it for us :eek: .... don't let Jona read that. LOL)

what else?
oh yeah.... games!

i got 2 older bro's so...
Space Invaders, Pac-man (NOT Ms. Pac-Man!!!), Donkey Kong, Frogger.
Also Madden Football (I always beat my bro and he HATES it!!! :) ), the NHL one (IE sports?) although I always lose and get a blister on my thumb :rolleyes: and NBA Jam
and...
my favorite game of all-time: POOL (billiards).
I... KICK.... BUTT.... at pool!!!
(until i win too much and start drinking my winnings :rolleyes: ).

Instruments?
don't play any :(

my favorite instrument?
bass
(drums/percussion comes in at a close 2nd)

favorite animal?
I have a soft-spot for strays.
So... mostly cats.
but I've built some great friendships with homeless dogs as well (and even a coyote and a parakeet!).

what else?
oh.... ELO is NOT classical music CO.
Go to Amazon.com or TowerRecords.com or something to hear them.
They really have a lot of songs that you will probaly already know (and/or like).

Favorite philosopher?
Ben Franklin :)

Favorite jazz musician?
Miles

Time to eat dinner?
YES!!!

goota scoot...
;) k

[Code One]

Anyone here familuar with Einsteins therory of illusion, I was wondering if someone could explain to me just what he meant. I mean I think I know but I want to make sure before I go believing one way or another. Ok he says if you look into space lets say something like 10 thousand light years and you see a star that has exploded and is to your view scattered and moving apart from its core (the center of explosion), and all these particles were all sorts of colors and shapes and they were simply floating threw space, and you are looking at them threw a telescope and there distance from you is of course 10 thousand light years away. According to my understanding of Einsteins therory and from his explanation of the 4th demesion, etc. the particles and it's exsistance is a reflection of what once was, something that happened 10 thousand light years ago, which is possible to time, considering time equals length, and since space is designed how it is, it can be timed in such a manner constituting the presents of a 4th demension. Meaning as far as I can comprehend, that anything you see in space that is thousands of light years away is a projection of the past, and in reality is not really there.? I am totally confused. You would think that something like that would be impossible or considering that the particles would still be there (real) and not an illusion, the process would simply just be of one solid mass becoming many solid masses which are now floating slowly threw space, and the only measuring required would be from the stars intial position to it's most current one with in the universe, right? I mean how is it possible to view an illusion over and over, any time , any day, forever, and ever. That to me is something real.

Any help

Code One

[havik]

Well, from a practical standpoint:

A lightyear is the distance you'd travel if you moved at the speed of light for an entire year.

Object X is a star which give of light (this is what we see at night obviously)

Object X is 10,000 lightyears away.

It makes sense logically that the light from the object (Star) will take 10,000 years to reach earth. So, we see the star as it was 10,000 years ago and no sooner.

Personally, I don't think people can handle this idea because we're all used to things that exist in the present. We are stuck in time, the present. Take a look at the first quote in my sig (which is Einsteins).

Makes you think, doesn't it? :D

Havik

[web-eagle]

Well, Mr. Einstien turned down a job as first president of Israel, so he may be even smarter than we think!

I’m not familiar with a “theory of illusion” as such, but what you describe sounds like typical astronomical conjecture. Light has a maximum speed (See specific theory of relativity). Actually it has only one speed: the speed of light (sic)

When something happens anywhere in the universe (and it releases measurable EM of some form) it takes a certain amount of time for the light (radio, uv, whatever) to travel to your eye. So yes, for great distances, that means that by the time you “see” it, it’s long since gone.

As far as particles as concerned, nothing with mass can approach the speed of light, so it’s unlikely that particles from great distances could be accurately linked to their point of origination, simply because they’d arrive so far behind the visible (light) component.

Mr. Einstein is also quoted as having said the following:

“The hardest thing to understand is income tax.”
“Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.”
“The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.”
“An empty stomach is not a good political advisor.”
“If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it.”
“To punish me for my contempt for authority, fate has made me an authority myself.”
“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.”

Mr. Web-Eagle is quoted as having said:
Queen also rocks (I like “big” sounds!)

khaki, never thought holding a mirror could make the testosterone level jump like that! :eek:


edit:
havik jumped in there whle I was typing, so...yea...what he said!:)

[Code One]

that the therory of illusion is not based on the solid rock particales but what you are timing is the light made from the explosion or burning gases illuminating the rock (star). That isnt as amazing as I thought, of course light would endlessly travel and be seen as it was when it was first developed. That is a pretty clever concept though, I would have never thought to think about that. To bad Einstein isnt still around Id love to talk to him.

thanks for clearing it up,

Code One

By the way:
Einstein saying that motion and time being an illusion is pretty deep, but is also a poorly thought out phrase, because in order to perceive everything at once, you would have to speed everything up to a speed so quick that it would appear to be instant, what you are ignoring is the fact that no matter the speed the movement of the object can still be timed regardless of the speed, meaning time and motion are not an illusion but two things which govern movement and are unable to be segregated. Time is present on its own our minds do not concieve time nor does it conceive motion.

[pyro]

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