DIV and scrollbar

[alain]

Hi,

I have a web page which is displayed under IE and FF without any problem.
However, under Opera it display a scroll bar (but not active = not scrollable).

i've checked the css code and everything seems ok (no pixel outside the div)
so where could be the problem located ?

thanks a lot,

A.

[WebJoel]

Would need to see your code. I suspect that the width of the item closely matches the parent's width (say, a 760px 'container' in a 770px 'wrapper' might cause this, as the scrollbar default-width is 20px, and some browsers include this with the stated "width", others, do not.. a work-around is stating a percentage-width instead... even if that is "width:100%;" this includes any scrollbars, whether needed or not)

[alain]

so here is the html code :

<div id='ID_DivTopMenu' class='Div_TopMenu'>
<a class='TopNavLink' href='#'>Contact_Us</a>
|
<img id='ID_TopNavArrow' class='TopNav_Arrow' src='temp.png' />
<a id='ID_TopNavLang' class='TopNavLink' href='#'></a>
|
<a class='TopNavLink' href=''>My Account</a>
<div id='ID_DivInterfaceLanguage' class='DivInterfaceLanguage' onmouseover='this.style.display="block";document.getElementById("ID_TopNavLang ").style.color="";' onmouseout='this.style.display="none";'>
</div>
</div>

and here the css file :

.Div_TopMenu
{
height : 20px;
margin-top : 5px;
margin-right : 5px;
color : #5078b4;
vertical-align : bottom;
}
.TopNavLink
{
margin : 0px 5px 0px 5px;
color : #5078b4;
vertical-align : bottom;
}
.TopNavLink:hover
{
color : #FAC81E;
}
.TopNav_Arrow
{
border-style : none;
vertical-align : bottom;
margin : 0px 5px 0px 7px;
cursor : pointer;
}
.DivInterfaceLanguage
{
z-index: 4;
position : absolute;
display : none;
cursor : pointer;
border-color : #AAAAAA;
}
.UL_LangItem
{
margin : 0px 0px 0px 0px;
padding : 0px 0px 0px 0px;
vertical-align : middle;
background-image : url(../images/common/topnav_tab_02.png);
}
.LangItem
{
margin : 0px 0px 0px 1px;
padding : 3px 0px 0px 9px;
vertical-align : middle;
height : 15px;
width : 70px;
list-style: none;
}
.LangItem:hover
{
margin : 0px 0px 0px 1px;
padding : 2px 0px 0px 9px;
vertical-align : middle;
height : 14px;
width : 70px;
list-style: none;
background-color : #eaeaea;
border-top-style : solid;
border-bottom-style : solid;
border-top-width : 1px;
border-bottom-width : 1px;
border-top-color : #FAC81E;
border-bottom-color : #FAC81E;
}

.Div_TabPageTop
{
background-image : url(../images/common/topnav_tab_01.png);
height : 20px;
width : 81px;
margin : 5px 0px 0px 0px;
}
.Div_TabPageBottom
{
background-image : url(../images/common/topnav_tab_03.png);
height : 5px;
width : 81px;
}

[WebJoel]

That's kind of a hodgepodge, isn't it? I am seeing something totally unfamilar. And it is probably necessary to give a DIV an "ID" and a "class" unless the "class" given it going to be re-used again elsewhere on the same page. There is more CSS here than required.
And for brevity, myself, I'd not name IDs thus: "#DIV_id_nameOfWhatever", I would just name the id, semantically when possible, and be done with it. If this ID is for a "wrapper", call it "#wrapper". If it is a sidebar, call it "#sidebar". Avoid confusion.

And what is going on here?

<div id='ID_DivTopMenu' class='Div_TopMenu'>

is this related to the class below? If so, it's not going to function as-written..

.Div_TopMenu
{height : 20px;
margin:0 5px;
color : #5078b4;
vertical-align : bottom;
}

I do not see any "#ID_DivTopMenu" at all in your CSS... this is possibly the whole problem.. -DIV(s) and possibly other elements named but incorrectly referanced in the CSS..

[alain]

i do not have any free web hosting space for now, so i will give here some screenshots.

step 1 : no mouse pointer on one of those 3 links.
step 2 : example how should look like a link when mouse is over it (yellow color)
step 3 : as i wrote before, to make the tab behavior, i needed to place a div with a z-index higher range than the link (worldwide= language selection). but due to that, the link does not get the mouseover event and does not change its color to Yellow.
step 4 : show the scrollbar only when the language selection div is displayed :-(

[WebJoel]

What browser are you using? IE will not take the pseudo-class for anything other than an anchor. I assume that they are anchor links.

I don't know what you want with these images, but until we get right with:

<div id='ID_DivTopMenu' class='Div_TopMenu'>

.Div_TopMenu {...}, a problem remains. I see & note the class="" similar in name to this id, but there is no #ID_DivTopMenu in the CSS that I can see.
I don't know what more can be done for you. The HTML cites a DIV named id="ID_DivTopMenu", -I don't think that there is anything in the CSS called "#ID_DivTopMenu" and maybe that is part of the problem..

No live-hosting eh? Can you copy the ENTIRE code and past it into a post? The two segements that you showed aren't enough: -I re-built using them and see something entirely different than what your screenshot images show. Either we are using different browsers or user-agents (VERY likely.. -are you using Dreamweaver for this?), or, -there is some essential code not included (javascript probably, if this is a drop-down and we'd NEED that to see/test what you are doing and the code is quite ineffective without this)...
What I see, is a 20-or-30px tall navigation bar, about 50px wide, that is chopped-off at the bottom, and nothing works at all..

[alain]

you will not find any #something in my css file because i use for that class='something'.

i use only id for javascript actions

A.

[alain]

i finally found what it was... my main div in which all the rest of web page elements are stored, had overflow : auto. :-(

[WebJoel]

ok