XHTML -- Still Relevant?

**svidgen** · 04-14-2012, 11:12 PM

When I was younger and fantasizing about being a 1337 h4x0r, I had no idea there was any room for confusion or controversy in any arena of software development. It all seemed so straightforward ...

And here we've spawned over 120 posts about the continuing relevance of a standard that was ultimately not terribly relevant to begin with.

**Mr Initial Man** · 04-14-2012, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by svidgen

... a standard that was ultimately not terribly relevant to begin with.

Oh, thanks a lot! That makes this XHTML coder feel so useful!

**spufi** · 04-17-2012, 12:30 PM

I saw a job listing for a web designer/developer that was proficient in HTML 5.

**Mr Initial Man** · 04-17-2012, 12:42 PM

In the Calgary area, I hope?

**edatz** · 04-17-2012, 03:12 PM

In the Calgary area, I hope?

Do I detect wishful thinking

'course there's always yhtml and zhtml...........

**Mr Initial Man** · 04-17-2012, 03:25 PM

Hopeful thinking.

Oh, and C-HTML and DHTML and SHTML.

**spufi** · 04-17-2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Initial Man

In the Calgary area, I hope?

Local to me, so MI, US.

**Troy III** · 09-29-2012, 03:48 PM

Anybody tried this?

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE native>
<html>
<head>
  <meta charset=utf-8>
  <title>native</title>
</head>
<body>
 <div id=mydiv> my div </div>
<script>
  mydiv.innerHTML="your div";
  alert(mydiv.tagName);
</script>
</body>
</html>

**Mr Initial Man** · 09-29-2012, 04:06 PM

To paraphrase the W3C validator's response: "Puke".

That being said, I just learned something new: that one can use the ID attribute as a variable name. Thank you very much. (Also works in XHTML; I just checked.)

**Troy III** · 09-29-2012, 04:14 PM

..and what UA does this client of yours use?!
I thought so

Yeah, it can also be used as an Anchor name.
i.e.: <a href="#mydiv">go to my div</div>

**Mr Initial Man** · 09-29-2012, 09:19 PM

UPDATE: Using an element's ID as a variable name doesn't work with SVG.

**Troy III** · 09-30-2012, 06:39 AM

Sorry to hear that, but...

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>

<head>
<title>SVG Demo</title>
<style>
  stop.begin { stop-color:yellow; }
  stop.end { stop-color:green; }
</style>
</head>

<body>
<svg id=svgtest>
  <linearGradient id=gradient>
    <stop class=begin offset=0% />
    <stop class=end offset=100% />
  </linearGradient>
  <rect x=0 y=0 width=100 height=100 style="fill:url(#gradient)" />
  <circle cx=50 cy=50 r=30 style="fill:url(#gradient)" />
</svg>

<script>
     alert(svgtest.tagName);
     alert(gradient.tagName);
</script>

</body>
</html>

I just tried this, - and it works!

**Troy III** · 09-30-2012, 07:14 AM

It means that you'll most probably have to revise your last statement and check back your code for errors.
p.s.: I guess "element's ID" is not being used as a "variable name", but as what it really is: a declared public reference to it.

**Mr Initial Man** · 09-30-2012, 03:56 PM

The element's ID can only be directly used as a declared public reference in a .html or .xhtml file. If it is used in a file with any other markup extension (.xml, .svg), then this means of referring to it is only supported by Internet Explorer.

**Troy III** · 09-30-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Initial Man

...(.xml, .svg), then this means of referring to it is only supported by Internet Explorer.

well, that's my boy... //others should follow!

Anyway, for cross-browser compatibility, you can always try my underDot platform which is faster than "document.getElementbyId", and smokes any "$()" based functions while being the shortest lib in existence, (weighting less than 40 bytes); using a simple syntax such as: _.elementID; including wrong id definitions: _["element ID"] possibility;
alas, I would never bother to serve my content in other than *.htm anyway.

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