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    Using new fonts - size matters?

    Hi all, it's me ( again!)

    I have some gif's that are just pictures of text. They are gifs because the text uses an uncommon font - Morpheus, which is not one that most folks have on their PC's.

    I know that it is possible using CSS to download a font from a web site to use with a page, but how do I do it? Also, do you guys think it is worth it? I mean a ttf font is about 60k. This is a very large download. I am very dubious about downloading the font because of it's size? Any thoughts?

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    Re: Using new fonts - size matters?

    Originally posted by SuzanneB
    Any thoughts?
    * Don't use images for anything but the smallest pieces of text.

    * Gifs are so 20th Century. Save your images as PNGs.

    * Don't get so hung up on your fonts in the first place. You're the only one who really cares.

    * You don't want to embed a whole font and you don't want to embed a font contrary to its copyright.

    * For the losers/users of MSIE, you can use WEFT to embed the font. But it's really not worth the trouble.
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    Re: Re: Using new fonts - size matters?

    Originally posted by Charles
    * Gifs are so 20th Century. Save your images as PNGs.
    I'm still a GIF man! As for your question SuzanneB, how about Shaun Inman's http://www.shauninman.com/mentary/pa...nd_revised.php its a little complicated but very effective. As the guru Charles says, it is really worth the trouble?

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    hi!

    I either use gif's or jpg's depending which does the job better. What is a png??? I can honestly say I have never seen one. I will use then when the rest of the world does. ( Rather be old fashioned than modern and utterly obscure!) Ha ha!

    I tend to agree that it is not really worth the trouble. I will stick with the images. There will only be a dozen or so, but they are critcial to the look of the site, so they will stay. If you look at Morpheus you will see why. It is a very distinctive font.

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    As long as your not keeping some information hidden from the people you want to see it, you should be fine!
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    For just a few words, images are the way to go. Just be certain to use the "alt" attribute.

    The Portable Network Graphic (PNG) format was developed years ago and is supported by all browsers that support images. But being younger than GIF it has quite a few improvements, including better compression.

    And about compression. The company that wrote the compression scheme used by GIF came out a few years ago and reasserted its claim to the copyright and warned that they were reserving the right to sue anybody who uses a GIF that wasn't made with a liscensed application. This is why some image editors don't support GIF.
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    Actually I might try the PNG format.

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    Good old Charles!
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    Originally posted by Charles
    The Portable Network Graphic (PNG) format was developed years ago and is supported by all browsers that support images. But being younger than GIF it has quite a few improvements, including better compression.

    And about compression. The company that wrote the compression scheme used by GIF came out a few years ago and reasserted its claim to the copyright and warned that they were reserving the right to sue anybody who uses a GIF that wasn't made with a liscensed application. This is why some image editors don't support GIF.
    PNG was a response to the patent Unisys held on the LZW compression used in GIF and other things. PNG is definitely an advancement over GIF in two areas: color depth and variable transparency. On the other hand the PNG developers didn't recognize how important GIF's simple animation capabilies were to a lot of web users and produced an animation monstrosity (MNG) that still has little support. The Unisys LZW patent has now expired so for simple, low color images like charts or graphical text GIF will remain king for a long time to come.

    It's also interesting to compare the two in terms of single versus commitee creation and the kinds of errors each is prone to.

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