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  1. 12-29-2005 10:53 AM #1
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    DOCTYPE causing problems

    When I add the following DOCTYPE text to my web page a portion of the graphics on the page disapears.

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
    "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transtional//EN"
    "http://www.w3c.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

    If I delete the top line I have no problem with the page display.

    Why is that?

    Thanks for your help

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  2. 12-29-2005 11:02 AM #2
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    Not a clue. We need to see the full HTML and CSS involved here. If you're using IE-Win, it could be a bazillion things wrong (with Internet Explorer).
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    in IE and NN, if there is no DTD (DOCTYPE) defined the browser goes into "quirks" mode, if the DTD is present, the browser goes into "standards" mode

    post your code

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  4. 12-29-2005 04:09 PM #4
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    Hi,
    I found that if I add an extra <! at the start of the line it is O.K. So will go with that for time being.

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    I found that if I add an extra <! at the start of the line it is O.K. So will go with that for time being.

    Put this in, too. @#$^&%&*(^&(*&)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJW
    Hi,
    I found that if I add an extra <! at the start of the line it is O.K. So will go with that for time being.

    Dave
    If you're going to do that, then you might as well just take the doctype declaration out completely, since I'm sure all you're doing now is specifying an invalid doctype.
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    Yeah, but, my code above fixes all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJW
    Hi,
    I found that if I add an extra <! at the start of the line it is O.K. So will go with that for time being.

    Dave
    If it's causing that much trouble just eliminate it by removing the Doctype all together.
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    If he does that then he shouldn't forget to remove all the div and p tags, too.
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  10. 12-30-2005 12:10 PM #10
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    Sorry folks! but still not sure what to do with this.
    Obviously if I don't include a Doctype it won't validate.
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    Without code, or preferably a link, we can't help you. Use a strict doctype, not loose. Validate and see what the errors are. Post them here if you need help.
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