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    Old 11-03-2009, 02:44 PM
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    for google, incoming links are more important than content or keywords...
    hmmm.... interesting dilemma.
    I have several directories for "vacation locations" that have less than 10 incoming links each... (really probably less than 5) and with a minimum of 200 to 300 links out (like a directory does) and these sites show page ONE in google, yahoo and msn for a lot of key words and have a nice volume of traffic. why??? because the content is there and the sites are well designed... except for one that is a mess that I inherited and still haven't fixed apart from the content.
    Sorry, but "page rank" never did mean all that much except to people trying to sell you links and play "SEO" games.
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    • purchasing links from another site with the aim of getting PageRank instead of traffic
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    But what would Google know about search engines anyway? There's also a bit of a guide to help you detect "SEO scammers" on the help page noted earlier.
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    Old 11-03-2009, 04:13 PM
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    Sorry, but "page rank" never did mean all that much except to people trying to sell you links and play "SEO" games.
    I'm not saying content doesn't matter, it certainly does affect your placement. I just think links matter a LOT more, especially good links.

    Don't forget "miserable failure".
    That alone proves that content is not google's largest criterion!

    Yes, google tweaked their methods to prevent/filter bombing, but they certainly didn't scrap the fundamental PageRank technology that enabled bombs in the first place.

    Can i please see the link that has less than 10 incomings, but #1 placement on a common keyword?
    it sounds an anomaly to me if it's true; it certainly would make me question some assumptions i've made about how the world works....

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