So the w3c validator says I've got an html 4.01 frameset document, with "No Character encoding declared at document level"; tidy says:
03:11:29 /home/barrie/www $ >> tidy ./index1.html | head --lines 10
[B]Info: Doctype given is "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
Info: Document content looks like XHTML 1.0 Transitional[/B]
No warnings or errors were found.
and heres the first bit of the file:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/HTML4/loose.dtd">
<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
<HEAD>
<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" />
<TITLE>Test Page</TITLE>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./index1.css" />
</HEAD>
.
.
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Which validator is correct and how do I fix the character encoding in the doc.??? I've tried pasting just about every available option! 
TIA,
Barrie