Thanks Charles that worked great. I did realize one of the windows I need was not big enough horizontally for the information, even if I increased the size of the window i need a horizontal scroll bar and have not been able to find out how to add it.
I have a couple of books on html 4.0 published in 97 or 98 but they do not have this type of info. One of the books touched brifly on addding "window" to "HERF" but not the weay you did it and nothing about a "child" or scroll bars. what would be a good book to read that teaches advance html like this?