HTML Goodies has a link labeled discussion, and that's how I found this forum and the good people that populate it. So, just leave HTML Goodies alone! Unless you want to deal with me!!! No, really, I'm serious! Hey... stop laughing at me! Come on, now, guys, I can be intimidating! O-okay, it's not that funny! Look, just leave HTML goodies alone, and, erm, no one gets (their feelings) hurt.