You have given me some hope here. I haven't done any of my server side stuff yet. I need to do hit counters and form to mail CGI's, I'm not sure I have access to PHP and to be honest I've never done any PHP scripting. Can you tell me more about your #3 load the hyperlink into a SCRIPT tag and get the content, option you gave. This might be my simplest solution right now but I'd be open to anything that works right now.